Update on the New Project – Ranking High in Google With Fast Backlinking Post 3

by Joseph on November 3, 2011

Post 3.

Here we go – the new project site is well under way now and the backlinking has started with some ferocity. See below for what has been completed thus far.

You can see the first post I wrote about this here.

And the follow up post here.

Post 4 in the series is here.

Post 5 is here.

Post 6 here.

 

Is the site ranking for anything yet?

Yes, the domain name is ranking somewhere between 2 and 5 in Google (generally speaking of course – I’m hardly going to check for every database icon wink Update on the New Project   Ranking High in Google With Fast Backlinking Post 3 ), depending on which database you use.

Other than that though, it does not appear to be ranking for anything. I’ve yet to add a plugin to the site which auto checks for any kwd rankings, so I’m not actually too sure about this.

The domain name is kwd rich to the main kwd I am looking to rank top ten in Google. I’ve simply added on a couple of extra words to the end. The main kwd phrase has a global search volume of just over 450k per month according to the Google Keyword Tool (exact phrase).

 

Now with regards to using Fiverr.com for your own campaigns where link building is concerned. I’ve been finding thus far that even though I’ve been picky in what I choose, its still patently obvious that I hold little control over what’s going down. For example, one of my chosen services advertised that they would provide 30 forum profile links (not the spammy type, but rather – the high PageRank types, which really you could argue are also spammy if you like), and 30 web2 links all for 5 bucks.

Job done indeed – and within about 48 hours too. But I found that the service supplier has gone well over-board with the web2 links and I’ve received over 70 of them instead of the 30 originally requested. Hmmm… that’s plenty enough to get most new websites booted out of Google’s top 500 rankings!!

Another example – folks on Fiverr.com often advertise in such a way as to somewhat bluff the service user. Take this for example…

Ifiscena (that’s the service provider name on Fiverr.com) wrote their ad like this…

“I will review your site and place a link on my site which is PR3 back to your site”.

Okay, so you are of course expecting a PR3 link, aren’t you?

Nope – I got a PRn/a link on a site that has the home page value of PR3. Thus its pretty much the same as a link from a free article directory submission, but I’ve paid 5 bucks for it. Mind you, he (or she) did do a nice write up of my site, but then they promptly chose the kwds of their own choice and not the kwds that they were provided by myself (I say myself, I actually have a friend helping me out on some of these Fiverr gigs (thank you sir!)).

Its not easy to figure out who means what with regards to their Fiverr ad write up and only experience will tell. I’ll make notes beside each Fiverr gig that I’ve chosen so you can – if you so wish to – pick out the ones that offer real value, and dump the rest. Mind you, a number of the gigs have yet to be completed, so I’ll have to come back and update this when those are indeed wrapped up.

 

Diary of SEO for the project site.

Build My Rank - started BMR Sunday night 30th Oct at 7 – 10 submissions per day.

 

For these Fiverr gigs, if you want to utilize some of the same ones I have, simply copy and paste the user name into the Fiverr.com website. Most of them offer a variety of services, and most (if not all) of them have very good feedback too.

 

Fiverr – User: Anustu – 35 Diggs and 35 Retweets.  Order placed 31 Oct. Completed within 3 days. Good work and to be recommended!

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Fiverr – User: Nidhi – 30 hi PR forum profile links (PR3 to PR6) and 30 web2 links (actually turned out to be 75, so take care as this is a bit on the high side) – all rss’d and pinged.  Order placed 31 Oct – Completed within 48 hours.

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Fiverr – User: jedi317 – 20 links from related blogs (different IP addresses) with 2 different kwd phrases. Order placed 31 Oct,completed within 1 day! (The value here is not so much the page rank, but the Alexa Rank of 77k. But its arguable whether its worth while doing because you can get higher Alexa Rank from a free article directory for example).

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Fiverr – User: etherealmorning – up to 20 comments on your blogs. Order placed 1st Nov.  Not completed yet.

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Fiverr – User: kellyc1066 – write a professional press release for your website. Order placed 1st Nov.  Not completed yet. (There are other Fiverr services who offer to submit a press release, and I’ll be using at least one of those services rather than me doing it myself).

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Fiverr – User: dhesea – review your website and publish it on my pr4 related blog. Order placed 1st Nov. 5 days to complete. Again, the links received are on a webpage of PRn/a and not on a PR4 page. The write up is good though.

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Fiverr – User: lfiscena – review your product on my HQ PR3 related blog. Order placed 1 Oct. Completed within one day. Link not placed on PR3 page but instead on a PRn/a page of said website.

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Fiverr – User: alexred – provide an Actual PR6 Page Backlink, With Low OBL. Order placed Nov 1st. Uncompleted.

 

I’ll make another update in the next few days, thanks for your patience!

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Charley November 3, 2011 at 4:26 am

Looking forward to more updates. The case study is becoming more interesting.
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 4:58 am

Hey Charley, it will be interesting if the site does manage to rank after all that backlinking, yes! Nevertheless, hopefully I can create a really good Fiverr.com resource simply by testing a lot of services on there and reporting back on my findings, so even if the site fails to achieve the rankings I’m hoping for, there is still the useful resources side of the process.

Brendan November 3, 2011 at 10:09 am

very interesting. the person providing 20 comments on your blogs comes to your site and comments on everything? i take it google looks favorably on this
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 10:31 am

Yes, that’s the idea Brandon. It may add a few more long tails to the fray and its also a sign that the site is becoming popular and thus Goog simply HAVE TO rank the thing top spot for all related kwds in the whole niche!!!! :-)

Cristina Ansbjerg November 3, 2011 at 10:48 am

The problem with Fiverr is that for 5 bucks you can’t complain when a guy does more than expected.
After this complete assessment of Fiver gigs you can definitely make a compilation and sell it for $7 – 9
Think about it.
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 11:02 am

I’d hate to complain if someone was doing more than the ad initially stated my dear, even tho in such cases like this, it surely can be detrimental to the required end result. Yeah, that’s a good idea – compilation of really good Fiverr services which can be used to help rank a website fast and furious in Google (or to dump a website fast and furious in Google as the case may well turn out to be ;-) ).

Cristina Ansbjerg November 3, 2011 at 11:18 am

Seriously Joseph. A review of SEO gigs on Fiverr could make you some money. At least to get your investment back, lol. It would be cool to break even without any additional effort.

The problem with Fiverr is that you never know the result you will get. And since you can’t really complain because $5 don’t allow you to do it, people are crazy to find recommendations from users who have tried the gigs.
Someone who pays $5 for a SEO gig very likely will pay $9 for a recommendation.
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 11:50 am

Okay then Cristina, no more updates from me about the Fiverr gigs on the blog here. The next update will be a written up glossy ebook selling for $29.99 and promising to change the buyers whole IM career around within 1 month!! Howz that sound? :-)

Cristina Ansbjerg November 3, 2011 at 12:08 pm

LOL. If I didn’t know you I would say it’s a good idea (a little bit expensive though).
But I know you, so I won’t expect any fancy and expensive report for IM guys… (IM meaning IMpatient. Not Internet Marketing, LOL).
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 12:35 pm

IM indeed my dear! :-) Expensive you think? Not once I’ve added in the glossy images though. Simply by doing that, I can bump up the price of the ebook by 50%, can’t I? After all, that’s what many of the “big” IMpatient guys and gals do, is it not? I’m just toying with the idea of implementing what works really well these days, and ripping off everyone who decides to invest in my proposed new glossy. But to make it in the true glossy mold, I’d have to come up with a Part 2 and a Part 3 also and add them as higher priced upsells, so best get my thinking cap on about that one. Any ideas about this Cristina?

Cristina Ansbjerg November 3, 2011 at 12:41 pm

You mean, any ideas for the upsell?
If so, yes. Offer 30 min. consultation with you about what SEO gigs are more appropiate for a particular project ;-)
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 12:58 pm

Okay, so that’s the first part of the upsell, which I can price at around $399.97. What about the second part… needs to be something that can sell for arond $599.95 or so. The more glossy the better :-)

Cristina Ansbjerg November 3, 2011 at 1:11 pm

Ok, for that price these days you can sell your soul… if you hadn’t done it before.
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 1:16 pm

I did that before I came to try my hand at working in the IM game. When needs must, after all ;-) Actually, now I think about it, the “niche” I’m refering to is a real good money spinner and well outwith the typical internet marketers mindset (for good reason too). Would require someone with good programming skills however cos its not possible to base the website on a simple WP template. Food for thought. Hey Cristina, you’re full of great ideas so you are!

Michal November 3, 2011 at 1:30 pm

Great Fiverr tips Joseph. The problem with Fiverr is that you actually never know what you will get. There are many great gigs but there are also many fakes with hundreds of positive reviews, which are actually scam. On the other hand Fiverr can be used as a tool for linkbuilding diversification but not as a primary SEO tool. I have tried some video gigs, which were really great but those forum and EDU link gigs are usually worthless.
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Cristina Ansbjerg November 3, 2011 at 1:34 pm

I have tons of ideas about how to leverage your content in order to create products and monetize.
Now I only need my own content to put any of those ideas into practice, lol.
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 1:38 pm

That’s the value of a business partnership my dear ;-)

Joseph November 3, 2011 at 1:48 pm

Hi Michal, thanks for sharing your experiences!

The last time I did a video gig using Fiverr, my site got smacked by Goog :-) Mind you, I’ll probably still use some video submissions on this current experiment since they can be powerful backlinks. As you will have read, I’ve added some hi PR forum profile links, which I’m pretty happy to do from time to time simply to mix the “shake” up a bit more. The dot edu and dot gov links – they are really easy to get these days, aren’t they. So Goog no doubt downplay their value on the whole, although no doubt there are still very many highly coveted dot edu and dot gov links simply because they are the ones that are still extremely difficult to obtain.

We’ll see how the Fiverr gigs thing goes Michal – I’m happy to chuck good money after bad at this, simply to figure out who and what is good and differentiate those services from the bad. Although I’ll still be mixing up the tried and tested services too, just to ensure something of a solid foundation (if that’s still going to be at all possible to achieve).

Regards
Joseph

Michal November 3, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Hi Joseph,

I wish I had your experience. Must hope that uncle G will be good to me :) I am quite new to this game and have so far been stuck in the Czech Republic a rather small country in Central Europe building crappy Czech language websites. I am now trying to see what things look like abroad :) . In any case your blog is a great source of both inspiration and information. I am sure that this case study will be a success. Cheerio :) .

Joseph November 3, 2011 at 4:33 pm

Hey Michal, could not but help take a quick peek at the website you had linked to in your previous comment. I noticed the age of the domain, and then saw the amount of backlinks to the domain as a whole. Interesting!!

I had a Polish coaching student with me for a couple of months or so who is doing pretty well these days in terms of both ranking his sites and making a decent income. Obviously his first language is not English, so that touches on something I mentioned in an earlier comment on one of my posts today. Not that you yourself have any problem with your English, which is why I wonder you are buidling “crappy” Czech language websites – much money to be made in this line Michal? I guess not, from how you describe things :-)

Thanks for the feedback on the blog! All the best!

Joseph

Dave November 3, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Hi Joe,

I’ve been using fiverr and most of the services I have used thus far seem pretty good for the money. I’ve had only one bad experience (well as bad as a $5er can be) and it was with a provider who wasn’t a top rated one. I use the xrumer, scrapebox gigs and article marketing gigs. The xrumer and scrapebox are great for backlinking the backlinks and I don’t mind the article directory jobs going to my money site (don’t think google indexes links as fast as most fear) Even if they do, the amount that actually will stick are lower than advertised anyway. The articles are usually with 2 website but varied keyword anchors and all are deep links to inner pages so its varied and spread out.

Personally, as I have a Mac, most IM software just isn’t compatible, and I hate being bound to paying for one monthy or two monthy services, with mixed results. All adds up after a while.

The downside with a lot of fiverr gigs is that they limit you to one or two URLS. Great if you have one page and one or two keywords you want to push up, but if you’re trying to build varied anchor text links and build links to all the URLs on your site or multiple sites, then you’ll come up short.

Looking forward to more of your results.

Best regards,
Dave for Kiev

Dave November 3, 2011 at 5:00 pm

Ooops, a few typos, sorry:(…

Michal November 3, 2011 at 5:43 pm

Joseph, the problem with Czech language websites is the fact that Czech Republic is a small market. Competition is not that high as in English speaking countries and it is possible to rank a new site fairly quickly due to the simple fact that we have two equal market leaders – Seznam.cz and the big G. None of them has a share over 50% in the search total. The problem is that you cannot make a decent living by making PPC monetized Czech language websites. There are not enough advertisers and therefore no real money can be earned using PPC. Affiliate market is pretty poor also as many companies just do not pay or offer ridiculous commissions (such as 0.1 USD per sale). Flash game sites are one of the areas in which some money can be made due to the fact that Czech kids like playing games and it is fairly easy to get more than 1000 visitors per day to a flash game site. That is why many internet freelancers have their own flash website as one of the main sources of income. On the other hand it is much more difficult to earn some decent cash in other niches (such as healthcare for instance). I have recently sold a site called uzdravim.cz, which had more than 200 unique and well-written articles and all it only earnt about 5 bucks per month using PPC. I sold it and decided to focus on international market. So I am still learning what to do and trying to figure things out.

Joseph November 3, 2011 at 5:57 pm

Hi Dave, yeah – article directories are generally fairly slow to take effect where rankings are concerned is what I’ve found. As you say, this can be a positive thing in that the Goog indexing rate of article submissions is very variable, so even if you pop up quite a few article submissions in a short space of time, the effects of that don’t tend to hit home for some time to come.

My old mate Chris also uses Mac, so he decided to invest in the Windows conversion software (or whatever it is) so he could utilize more of the PC-based stuff for backlinking work. Pretty expensive but worth it if you want to work with a Mac as opposed to a Windows based machine and you want to labour on the backlinking work quite a lot yourself.

Agreed – Fiverr gigs do tend to be limited in that you can only pick out one or two URL’s and maybe a couple of different kwds at any one time, so its very wise to also be hitting your site with a really good kwd variation using other tools or services at the same time you are utilizing the Fiverr gigs. You’ve really gotta map out your strategy rather well before you begin using services such as those offered on Fiverr cos otherwise you can end up on the wrong side of Google all too soon. With that one service I used where the service provider popped up 75 web2′s (all with the same anchor text too) instead of the advertised 30 links, that could be my downfall already. But I’m trying to add in quite a bit of variation now to compensate the effect that would most probably have if it were to be left alone as it is now.

Thanks for your input Dave, and I did not see many typos (if any) in your comment :-)

Jo

Joseph November 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Hey again Michal, it can be fairly tricky finding advertisers in AdWords even in English – the amount of times I’ve ranked sites/webpages in Goog which are monetized using AdSense only to find that the click thru is atrocious kinda spells out this fact – either that, or the ads being shown are quite a ways off the mark. So I’ve absolutely no doubt it must be nigh on impossible to find advertisers in the Czech language, except for maybe in the real big lucrative niches such as credit cards and insurance etc.

But I have heard from some folks who contact me from time to time that such markets as Canada and Australia can be nicely lucrative, even though population-wise we are talking about maybe 30 to 40 million folks in each of those countries, which pales into insignificance in comparison to that of the US, and is even quite a lot smaller than the UK too. But the UK is really competitive too now, so I think a lot of folks who used to work the .co.uk markets are also now turning to new pastures that are less populated. Apparently to rank .au and .ca domains for those respective countries if you have an exact match domain (which are far easier to come-by than .com or .co.uk exact match domain names) is relatively easy. For sure, the markets are smaller, but the rankings are far quicker and far easier.

Do you see the Czech market getting bigger as more and more people gain internet access, or is it already as large as it potentially can get? I know for a fact that countries such as Malaysia where I now reside are somewhat in their infancy when it comes to internet usage. But geez – to purchase a .com.my domain name you have to have a registered company and the domain names tend to be quite a bit more expensive than a simple .com or .co.uk extension domain name. Why they make it so difficult to gain entry to holding a domain name here is beyond me, but it does mean that if you can actually grab some .com.my domain names, the pickings now and more so in the future, can be very rich.

Michal November 3, 2011 at 8:11 pm

Joseph: I think that the Czech market is quite open and still growing. There are no restrictions on generic .cz domain names (everybody can buy one) and the price is okay as well. The only problem is that for the same amount of work you earn much less in the Czech Republic than for instance in USA (PPC and affiliate commissions generate lower income than in USA or in Western Europe). Another problem is that despite the lower competition on the Czech market, linkbuilding efforts cost much higher here than in USA (for instance you get a decent article in English for 5 bucks while you get a decent article in Czech for 15 – 20 bucks). What is more you cannot spin articles in Czech – there are no spinning tools available here and the language itself is much more difficult to spin. This means that in order to rank well in the Czech Republic you have to invest 3 to 5 times more money than on English speaking markets and the revenue potential is 3 to 5 times lower than on English speaking markets. All in all it is much better to try to build websites in English than in Czech or any other local language (except larger markets like France, Poland or Germany).

Casey November 3, 2011 at 11:09 pm

I was waiting for this update, as usual. Good stuff and you have watch those fiverr gigs, but there are some good ones if you take the time to look through them and read the feedback. I came across a few myself that i may use in the future. This new site im working on wont need more then 10 to beat most all of the top so ill probably just use bmr. Looking forward to the next update. Thanks for heads up!
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Joseph November 3, 2011 at 11:52 pm

Yeah Michal, sounds like working SEO in the Czech republic is something of a lame horse at the moment. Not at all a good investment of time or resources!

Joseph November 3, 2011 at 11:53 pm

I’ll get another couple of them set up today Casey, and I also want to do some directory submissions today too – more about this in the next update which should be early next week.

steve wyman November 4, 2011 at 12:45 am

Hi Jo

Intresting follow up. I have t say i know a lot of folks have had problems with fiver gigs. The overdelivery can be an issue Cristina when you get more link love then you want ! I had a 200% overdelivery on some backlinks.. they were so “wow what a great job we did” problem was I”d ordered what i needed and got a dance from their efforts. Oh well.

Dont give jo ideas aout charging for info just buy his existing eBook :-) more money means he’ll just spend it on beer :-)

On a slightly (if i can manage it) serious note. I have been thinking of seeling some fiver gigs that were proffesional and did exactly what they say they will.. novel idea I know..

Steve
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Blake G. November 4, 2011 at 12:51 am

I love that you have left their names and are reviewing the fivers individually … I bet the ones that do well for you will get extra business from your blog. I know that I will use at least a couple of the ones you like. As always looking forward to your next update and how you go about your directory submissions with this challenge.

Blake G. November 4, 2011 at 12:53 am

ps … that is a crazy amount of links for how long that site has been up michal!

Blake G. November 4, 2011 at 1:07 am

Ok I know I am pushing it with my triple post … hope someone post before I finish this …. but here we go.

I have pondered using some fiverr backlinking to some of the high PR links I have had on BMR. I guess it might not be worth 5 bucks for one link on a pr n/a page but then again … maybe it would raise the PR of that page it is on since it is hosted on a pr-6 site … not sure if this would be worth the money so I am open to your ideas Joseph (and crew)

Blake

Joseph November 4, 2011 at 1:15 am

Hey Steve, yup – most probably the majority of Fiverr SEO gigs are more suited to linking to outer sites than to a money site. Nevertheless, I just wanna see if I can sink or swim by ‘over-utilizing’ Fiverr gigs – it surely would not be the norm for most folks to do this – merely an exercise on how to throw good money down the toilet pan ;-)

Actually, you got that right sir! When I first came to Malaysia some two years ago, I was drinking the nastiest of gnats pee and could rarely afford to go out to a hotel or local “posh” bar in town. $500 US a month does not quite provide for that kind of lifestyle, not here in Kuching anyhow. But as the months have progressed to years and the income has improved, so has my ability to spend on the posher gnats pee. I now do drink posh gnats pee cos I can afford it, but I’ve still to progress out of drinking gnats pee regularly (think more champagne (Cava is perfectly fine, thank you) and fine red wine (cheap bottle of Jacob’s Creek cabernet is very appealing!)), so Cristina’s ideas may come in handy for allowing for just that ;-)

LOLz! I really like that – “I have been thinking of selling some fiverr gigs that do exactly what they say they will. Novel idea, I know” LOL! I doubt the Fiverr management would allow such a thing!

Joseph November 4, 2011 at 1:20 am

Well Blake, I’ve even used a couple on one of my other sites which I most certainly would not do unless I trusted the service provider and the service he or she is offering, since I’ve a lot to lose should that particular site take a nose dive in our god-like Google. Good point – the solid providers on Fiverr will be justly rewarded by mentions such as those on my blog here. Let’s hope they stick around for a while to come! And agreed – Michal’s site is a very interesting case!

Joseph November 4, 2011 at 1:57 am

I did reply before you completed your “outlandish” triple post run Blake, but your posts are all showing up together so I guess you deserve some points in your favour for that – and what do points mean? PRIZES!!

Not sure about what the crew would think about this, but for the likes of those who do Article Marketing Robot runs on Fiverr.com, I would very happily pay for that since I find AMR a pain in the butt to use! But take another tool for example here – Backlinks Genie – its not worth it to merely get countless runs of 1000 backlinks for 5 bucks a time here unless of course you merely needed the occasional run and that’s all. You can get Genie for free these days (if memory serves me correctly), albeit its on a very much reduced account, but the $67 a month account is powerful and you can use it daily. So yeah, you got to really evaluate what you are looking to do and figure out if using Fiverr.com is actually gonna be worth it. Its all too easy to dump 5 after 5 after 5 on various services but its as often as not a needless expenditure, so good point Blake!

Luke November 4, 2011 at 3:55 am

Hi Joseph,

I have been creating the web 2.0′s (squidoo, wordpress) with spun content and including images….making the post/articles look pretty good rather than just copying and pasting.

Now, I am in the process of ordering fiverr services. I am only sending the links to my web 2.0′s, and ezine articles rather than directly to my money website.

I will keep you posted on my results. Have some orders being filled right now so I should see in the coming weeks if I get a bump in the rankings or not!

Joseph November 4, 2011 at 6:05 am

Luke, I would say that is very wise! I know how long and hard you have worked to get your site to where it is now in the rankings, so to risk those rankings now by utilizing Fiverr gigs to link back to the money site is probably not a good idea. As mentioned in a comment earlier, I will be using the occasional gig on some of my sites other than this project site, but I’ll be sure that those services I do use are harmless when it comes to any potential for the Google doooooom master to kick me where it really hurts!

Look forward to hearing from you about those results!

Regards
Jo

Blake G. November 4, 2011 at 11:55 am

I hope I get enough points for that cool beer drinking hat. The one that holds your two beers for ya !!!

Brendan November 4, 2011 at 1:48 pm

Dearest Joe,

Your site is making me broke. I was awesome when all I was using was blogs, 2.0s and article submissions. But now we have BMR, backlink genie, your e-book, and easywpseo. And now fiverr. Oh lord.

Not too long ago I mentioned that I had forgotten so many basics getting into all this new stuff.

Would you believe it that I forgot about ezine articles and all the other high PR article directories? how the heck did that happen?
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Joseph November 4, 2011 at 9:45 pm

LOL – what’s dat about Blake? :-)

Joseph November 4, 2011 at 9:53 pm

Well Brendan, you gotta ask yourself this – are you happy to just tinker on and make a few bucks here and there, whilst investing a lot of your precious time doing so? Or would you prefer to build up a large and very successful online business, where the opportunity is to actually only invest a small proportion of your time, if you so wish, whilst still seeing a great return on that time spent in tems of an income? I know which option I’d rather choose.

If you are happy to go back to the land of the “freebie seeker” then that’s cool, but in so doing, be prepared to forever-more be slave laboring over a business that grows ever so slowly.

I choose to invest a really large proportion of my monthly income back into my business – not for the results that I’ll obtain today, but for the results that I’ll achieve in the months and the years to come. There’s no way I could become a millionaire (in terms of making large sums of greenbacks) if I were not prepared to make a solid investment each and every month. I think I’ve yacked on enough, haven’t I.

To your success and may the force be with you, sir!

Blake G. November 5, 2011 at 3:10 am

lol … you had mentioned earlier in post I got points for my triple post and that meant PRIZES !!! … I was just dreaming up my prize

Jim November 5, 2011 at 4:18 am

LOL @ Blake :) hilarious!

What kind of anchor text variation do you use Joseph?

And another question thats been bugging me…if you aren’t optimized (like title wise or URL wise) for a keyword but it appears a few times throughout your post and maybe in an H1, if you backlink using that keyword as anchor text can you rank for it if its really easy?

Hope that makes sense… for example sort of a page on “Blue Widgets” but you have a bit to say about “Red Widgets” but not enough for a full post. So along with the Blues you mention Reds a few times and use Red Widgets as anchor text when backlinking… you could rank for Red Widgets too if there is little competition?

Hope someone can answer that for me… seems like a dumb question that I answered myself now :p

Cheers!
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Joseph November 5, 2011 at 4:36 am

And what have you decided upon Blake? A nice designer handbag to keep your beer cool? Anyone who reads this and starts to wonder – its a personal joke between us so don’t over-scrutinize things, will ya ;-)

Joseph November 5, 2011 at 4:49 am

Hey Jim – anchor text variation comes in all shapes and sizes. Domain names to home page such as this:
http://josepharchibald.com
http://www.josepharchibald.com
josepharchibald.com
http://www.josepharchibald.com

Looks very natural when someone is bookmarking your site.

But the main thing I tend to do is to add words onto my main kwds that I’m targeting like this for example…

Joseph Archibald is a beer swilling internet marketer.

Joseph Archibal being my main kwd here.

Or say I had two kwds in mind – “Joseph Archibald” and ” internet marketer”… Well I got them both in that anchor text – smart, right? ;-) You can actually do this in BMR too.

Example:

Kwds this time are: “cat food” and “dog food”.

In BMR I would write something like…

I buy my cat food and dog food at the same supermarket each week because its cheaper there. You tend to get away with a double whammy kwd in the same anchor text so there is no need to go writing great long posts simply to get another kwd in the post – just keep it to 150 words and you can still get 2 or even 3 kwds in there.

Answer to your next question that you already answered yourself (:-)) will be shorter Jim – yes, you can rank without on-page optimizing to a great extent, or to any extent. If you use Market Samurai, you will soon see time and time and time again that on-page optimization is severley lacking, even in really competitive niches.

Jim November 5, 2011 at 5:55 am

Awesome, thanks Jo! Wasn’t sure where to ask that and get a solid answer except for here! Thanks for clearing that up :)

Joseph November 5, 2011 at 6:21 am

Always my pleasure Jim! :-)

Helen Neely November 5, 2011 at 8:08 am

As always, Joseph, I will be following to see how this works out again. I have never used fiverr but will try it out with one of the small projects I’m planning.

Good luck
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Joseph November 5, 2011 at 8:22 am

So far so good Helen – one of my targeted kwds, albeit lightly targeted compared to my main one – has reached 19th in Scroogle.org. 8.1k global search volume, which is pretty decent after 5 days of backlinking. One of the key things though is that I know the site has not been totally obliterated in the rankings as of yet, as could well have happened. That’s not to say however that the main kwd phrase isn’t totally obliterated already. Its not ranking in the top 100, but I surely will be watching closely for any sign of it and will be reporting back on this as soon as I see it.

Thanks for following along Helen!

Joseph

Blake G. November 5, 2011 at 11:11 pm

LOL JO … What else would I want and what else would I use a designer handbag other than storing my ice cold beer :)

Blake

Joseph November 5, 2011 at 11:31 pm

Well Blake, I know some lads who would happily use a really trendy designer handbag for “normal” day to day activities. I’ve got a “thing” for quality designer handbags myself, actually. Those shops that sell ‘em in international airports in duty free – those are my first port of call each time! Those and cigar shops too, of course ;-)

Blake G. November 5, 2011 at 11:42 pm

Yea those duty free stores are good sometimes. They are duty free but they charge you 6 bucks per bottle of water lol. Although you can get a 1.75L bottle of liquor for the same price.

Tai from weightlossmealplans November 6, 2011 at 12:00 am

Joseph I have been a long time lurker on your site but I feel compelled to leave a comment to say thanks so much for sharing all of your wisdom and experiences. I really appreciate your honest opinion about things without all of the over blown hype that you get a lot in the IM biz. I have noticed that you have an offer for those people who buy BMR through your link but I am confused as to what the offer is and whether or not it is still available. Please let me know if the offer is available because I do plan on purchasing BMR very soon.–Thanks!
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Joseph November 6, 2011 at 1:43 am

LOL – there ain’t no way that you’d find me buying bottles of water, Blake – I’ll stick to my handbag shopping, thank you!

Joseph November 6, 2011 at 1:52 am

Hey Tai – great! I really like to see the long term lurkers finally making a comment ;-) Its a friendly place here on the blog, and we all have a great laugh, so its not so often about serious stuff, which becomes a little bit strained if its constant.

Over-blown hype – yup, there is a whole ton of that in the IM game. It gets to the point of being utterly pathetic, and thoroughly annoying. After all, we know what that’s about – its all about making the person who is doing the hyping – more and more money, at the expense of everyone who is fooled by it. Mind you, its also good for a laugh – you’ll see me often comment in a hyped up fashion, purely for fun :-)

BMR – yes, the offer still stands and will continue to stand for a long time to come. For each month you use my affiliate link, I will reimburse you 12 bucks – providing you email me your receipt of “purchase” and Paypal ID. All you need to do is to let your BMR “purchase” run for as long as you want (that’s on auto via your Paypal account), and when you are billed, simply email me the details each time. Takes less than a minute, so well worth it to get the 12 bucks back in your account. 12 bucks for a minutes “work”. Hmmm… that sounds like the ideal job :-)

All the best Tai!

Joseph

Brendan November 6, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Joe,

Do you think Luke could go back to racing speeders on Tatooine after what Obi-Wan taught him?

No? Well neither can I haha! There are some important freebies that can still be utilized though and shouldn’t be forgotten is kinda my point.

Thank you, Jedi master =o)
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Blake G. November 6, 2011 at 9:25 pm

I was reading some of your old post and saw matt asking you how to set up the picture on the forum …. I just set mine up … here’s to hoping it shows :) … also What is the name of the plugin that will track your keyword rankings? As always thanks

Blake

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 3:32 am

LOL – Christmas spirit has come to you a tad early Blake, sir!

The plugin – good question – I have no idea :-) Its actually not a plugin – its a desktop “standalone” thingy, called CuteRank which seems to be a siimilar “job” to Rank Tracker. I’d much prefer a simple plugin that can track all the top 100 ranking kwds cos its much easier to use than the CuteRank thingy.

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 3:39 am

LOL – Brendan, I really enjoy Star Wars (44 years of age and still love Star Wars), but obviously I am not as much a Star Wars geek as you ;-) Freebies have their place fo sure, but as long as the Jedi-Master wannabe (i.e. SEO trainee) knows full well that freebies alone are not gonna cut it in this day and age. Maybe 6 or 7 years ago, freebies would have been plenty enough to make you a heap of money in SEO – sadly however, that is no longer the case.

Blake G. November 7, 2011 at 3:51 am

Lol … yes … this picture was taken when I was up in Aspen Colorado … I keep it up since I can not be there .. it reminds me of the good times … and why I am working to make IM work for me :)

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 4:09 am

Aspen, Colorado – spending time there is what internet marketing dreams are all about! I plan to head on over your way some time next year, so hopefully I too can partake in the Aspen, Colorado dream! Care to join me Blake?

Brendan November 7, 2011 at 11:40 am

You guys can keep your Aspen… I’ll take Rio de Janeiro :)

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm

Where’s that then? LOL! Well, I’m pretty happy in the heat of Kuching, actually, and I can’t ski to save myself so the skiing is out. Rio sounds exciting tho!

Blake November 7, 2011 at 1:54 pm

Boy would I … The only problem is I am in sweltering San Antonio Texas now …. I may be able to make a trip to Aspen next year … then again maybe not lol. But I would love to meet up with you if you came state side and if was feasible. Here is to hoping I have more disposable income this time next year (or sooner !)

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Here’s to hoping I’ve got more disposable income this time next year also ;-) Sure looks like I’ll be doing a whole lot of traveling if I do get to the States, but quite a bit of it will be business orientated, so its not simply gonna be a long holiday. Should be great fun and I do hope to meet up with you Blake!

Jim November 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Not to distract from anyone’s holiday plans :) but I have a backlink question!
BMR vs. Blog Bleuprint… which helps you rank higher and faster? I don’t care about time to write posts or ease of use or anything, just curious which one is more powerful?
I’m guessing BMR? Just not sure which one I should subscribe to, considering I go after very low competition keywords.
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stevewyman November 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm

Hi

Nah, give me asia everyday :-) I love going to the USA, wyoming and california being favourites but you cant beat Asia in many ways a diverse set of cultures and experiences…

Ok so the best choice would really be around the world but heck need some serious pasive income happening to do that :-)

cheers

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 10:53 pm

I’d plump for BMR over BB Jim – the reason being is that I feel that the backlinks “stick” for longer in BMR – you can follow them up a year later and a lot of them are still in place. With BB its difficult to do that even just after the backlink has been placed. As far as strength of backlinks – well, both tools have the downside that once your snippet rolls off the homepage of the site it has been located upon, the PageRank reverts to something very low or non-existant i.e. PRn/a. In BMR it will remain like that for ever more, unless you do something about it yourself – namely, whack those little posts with tons of crappy backlinks to raise the PR. And in BMR this is much easier to do than with BB simply because you can very easily follow up on all your previous posts/backlinks.

Does that help at all Jim?

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 11:06 pm

Hey Steve – you spent what – 6 months in Thailand was it? That must have been a ball! I’m off to Thailand in about 4 weeks time, so that’s gonna be cool. I’ve still to set foot in the US, but now there’s more incentive for doing so than ever. Another place I’d like to get to is St Peterburg in Russia. I’ve been to Moscow fairly often, but never over to St Petersburg. And I’d also love to spend about 3 months traveling around Scotland – doing lots of island hopping, and sampling all the whiskies and listening to all the funny accents. Where are you off to next?

Jim November 7, 2011 at 11:22 pm

My brother went to St. Petersburg for a month and boarded with a gent there, he very much enjoyed it. He also travelled Mongolia and spent some time in parts of Asia and Europe. Now he lives in Japan and teaches English there.
I’ve visited the US numerous times, but being in Canada it’s obviously easier. I’m the oddball though in my family as I haven’t set foot in Asia or Europe myself, even though all my relatives live in the UK and all my siblings have visited those places.
I’m off to Mexico next month though, taking my two oldest children to Gran Bahia Principe Coba, just outside of Playa Del Carmen. Should be fun.
Sorry, I wanted in on the cool vacation conversation :)

As for BB vs. BMR, yes that answers that quite satisfactorily and thus I will stick to BMR and open an account tomorrow. Thanks for the reply Jo.
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Blake G. November 7, 2011 at 11:36 pm

Jim just a reminder to use Josephs Affiliate link so you can get some cash back on your purchase.

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 11:45 pm

Your brother is quite the adventurer then Jim! Hope you have a great time in Mexico! Isn’t that where you’ve just been to Blake?

Joseph November 7, 2011 at 11:53 pm

Thanks Blake!

Blake G. November 8, 2011 at 3:07 am

Yes that was very close to where I was at. It was amazing ! You will surely have a good time. When I was there I tipped my Driver from the airport to take me to the local area to do some shopping. He took us to one small store but It was very neat to see where some of the locals shopped. If we had more time he offered to give us a locals tour. Enjoy Mexico we had a blast for sure! And no prob Joseph

Blake

Jim November 8, 2011 at 3:40 am

LOL for sure Blake, I already use his BMR services and wouldn’t dream of joining without using his aff link :)

I imagine Mexico will be grand, thanks :)
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Joseph November 8, 2011 at 4:43 am

Mexico will be all the grander once Blake returns ;-)

Damn pain in my butt – technicalities are proving my undoing once more. Can’t get Filezilla to work for me so I can upload the website files, and the new FTP client – WinSCP – refuses to login to my account. Emails back and forth to Hostgator. And I’m now thinking – its time to use Fiverr.com once more! Found this gig on there for file uploads…

furzio will upload your website to your web hosting server

Oh to be something more of a techie geek than I am!!

Cristina Ansbjerg November 8, 2011 at 8:45 am

I wouldn’t trust any Fiverr guy to upload anything to my site via FTP.
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Joseph November 8, 2011 at 8:49 am

He’s someone I’ve used before Cristina so I feel fairly safe about going with him once more.

The PokerGosh December 4, 2011 at 7:15 pm

Hey Joseph did you record what was the changes at the alexa rankings with these link building techniques ??
I am seriously thinking at using some of the fiverr users for my own website..
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Joseph December 4, 2011 at 10:18 pm

Hi Randy, yeah – the PR only went from n/a to PR0 across the board – all pages on the domain have a PR0 now. I think due to the lack of real quality links, the PR did not rise any further than this. But probably in time once the backlinks that stick actually mature, the site’s PR on the whole will rise a bit is what I’m thinking.

All the best Randy!
Joseph

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